PRE Stud Book Meeting

USPRE Meets With The Head of The PRE Stud Book

D. Pedro Rey Alvarez
D. Pedro Rey Alvarez

Following the ANCCE Annual General Assembly last week in the Andalusian capital of Seville, USPRE met with the Director of LG-ANCCE, D. Pedro Rey Alvarez to discuss matters of particular interest to Pure Spanish Horse (PRE) Breeders in the United States and solicited responses to Breeder questions as follows:

1. Although we accept that Cartas are being sent to Breeders on a regular basis, how long is the expected delivery period for a new Carta ?

As a matter of record, under our commitment to the Ministry of Agriculture to manage the P.R.E Stud Book, we are obliged to fulfill service requests within six (6) months from the moment an application for service arrives in our LG-ANCCE headquarters in Sevilla. On the other hand and, as a matter of practice, our staff work diligently to process documents in the shortest possible period of time while respecting the necessary due diligence required. Nevertheless, we have seen, in many instances, Cartas delivered to Breeders in the U.S. in under four (4) months. This, I believe, is remarkable improvement from the past.

2. What are the most common causes of a new Carta being delayed ?

Owing to the fact that in 2008, we provided Inscription services to American Breeders in an unprecedented manner without requiring payment for services in advance, many Breeders in the U.S. experienced delays due to the failure or tardiness to make the required payment for Inscription services. Broadly speaking though, causes for delays are very unique to each Inscription request but are generally attributable to incorrect or omitted data submitted by the Breeder and the parental incompatibility of Sires and/or Dams as determined by our laboratory.

3. As a Breeder, what can I do to ensure that a Carta for my horse is issued on a timely basis ?

The best advice that I can provide is to ensure that all the data affixed to the International Request for Service is accurate and that important required documents such as the Certificado de Cubricion (Breeding & Birth Certificate) are attached. It is also vital, for reasons of communications to, affix legible contact details such as email addresses as we are increasingly relying on electronic media to correspond with Breeders.

4. After I send my completed Inscription kit to the Miami office, how can I best determine if a Carta has been issued ?

The only dependable mechanisms to best establish that an Inscription has been confirmed and a Carta issued is to go to your private online Breeder file in the LG-ANCCE website or to check in the LG-ANCCE Arbol Genealogico PRE. Once a PRE number is listed for a newly Inscribed foal, the Carta is sent in our weekly couriers to the Miami LG-ANCCE office to be logged in their American Breeder records and remitted to the Breeder by certified mail. This last administrative and expediting process usually takes ten (10) working days.

5. I am no longer able to reach or locate the Owner of the Sire of my foal and I am having difficulties getting a Certificado de Cubricion to Inscribe my foal. What can I do ?

For horses born prior to December 31st 2007, Breeders can use our form entitled “Breeding and Birth Declaration” by emailing or calling the LG-ANCCE office in Miami. For horses, born on January 1, 2008 and thereafter, we have a very strict Stud Book policy of not accepting to process Inscription service requests without an official bar coded Certificado de Cubricion which is available online to all stallion owners free of charge. Breeders with extraordinary circumstances should contact the Miami office and our staff will endeavor to assist where possible.

6. I am in the process of selling a foal for which I have submitted a completed Inscription kit to the Miami LG-ANCCE office. Can I advertise the foal as being Inscribed ?

A horse should not, under any circumstances, be represented as Inscribed until an official PRE Stud Book number has been issued and published in the LG-ANCCE Arbol Genealogico PRE.

7. Last year, my horse was Inscribed & Revised on the same day. Since my horse passed Revision, can I represent that my horse is indeed now Revised?

In the first half of 2008, to accommodate the great demand for LG services in the U.S., LG-ANCCE, on an exceptional basis provided simultaneous Inscription and Revision services for a limited time. Nevertheless, unless a horse is first assigned a PRE number and a Carta issued, the Revision component is not acknowledged by the Stud Book.

8. What is the schedule for Revisions in the United States ?

Since September 2008, Revisions in the U.S. are scheduled by the interested Breeders and in coordination with USPRE and the Miami LG-ANCCE office. The Stud Book office will cover all associated travel costs of our authorized Veterinarian providing that the Breeders organize themselves and guarantee no less that fifteen (15) horses in any one location. Of course, Breeders can still request the services of our Veterinarian for Revision sites with less than fifteen (15) horses but in this instance, travel costs must be borne by the participating Breeders.

9. I have a very poor internet connection which does not always allow me to successfully make payments to LG-ANCCE. What alternative do I have to pay for Stud Book services ?

Besides making a conventional bank transfer, Breeders may also make service payments by faxing a Credit Card Authorization form to the Miami office. This form is available on the USPRE website.

10. The Sire of my six month foal is designated as “I.T.I.” (Inscritos a Titulo Informativo) in the Libro Genealogico PRE. Can my foal be Inscribed ?

As has been the case for many years and prior to the management of the PRE Stud Book by ANCCE, no offspring of horses designated as “I.T.I.” can be considered for Inscription.

11. Can LG-ANCCE provide me with the DNA markers of my horses ?

LG-ANCCE can provide Breeders with the DNA markers of their horses upon request. After January 2010, this data will be available online in the Private Breeder file.

12. What is the relationship between LG-ANCCE and Melpi/Gescab ?

There is absolutely no relationship between LG-ANCCE and Melpi on any level. As such, Breeders are cautioned to not rely on the PRE equine data which is published by non authorized or illegitimate entities.

13. There are several websites that provide P.R.E. genealogy which in fact often show different and contradictory information for the same horse. Which website should be used as the most reliable source ?

LG-ANCCE only maintains and supplies data for Pure Spanish Horses to one single resource – the LG-ANCCE Arbol Genealogico PRE. Given that it is our obligation to protect the sanctity and accuracy of the Stud Book data distributed to Breeders and to the public, this single resource center policy will continue.

14. What is the status of the Belgium Court ruling incident ?

It is unfortunate that some Breeders have been unduly caused unnecessary concern and alarm by the irresponsible reports of a so called Belgium court ruling. This court ruling simply does not exist and we (ANCCE and LG-ANCCE) are not associated or affected by this erroneous conjecture which is being used by an inconsequential number of antagonists. I must say, it does sell news print.

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USPRE Meets With The Head of The PRE Stud Book

D. Pedro Rey Alvarez
D. Pedro Rey Alvarez

Following the ANCCE Annual General Assembly last week in the Andalusian capital of Seville, USPRE met with the Director of LG-ANCCE, D. Pedro Rey Alvarez to discuss matters of particular interest to Pure Spanish Horse (PRE) Breeders in the United States and solicited responses to Breeder questions as follows:

1. Although we accept that Cartas are being sent to Breeders on a regular basis, how long is the expected delivery period for a new Carta ?

As a matter of record, under our commitment to the Ministry of Agriculture to manage the P.R.E Stud Book, we are obliged to fulfill service requests within six (6) months from the moment an application for service arrives in our LG-ANCCE headquarters in Sevilla. On the other hand and, as a matter of practice, our staff work diligently to process documents in the shortest possible period of time while respecting the necessary due diligence required. Nevertheless, we have seen, in many instances, Cartas delivered to Breeders in the U.S. in under four (4) months. This, I believe, is remarkable improvement from the past.

2. What are the most common causes of a new Carta being delayed ?

Owing to the fact that in 2008, we provided Inscription services to American Breeders in an unprecedented manner without requiring payment for services in advance, many Breeders in the U.S. experienced delays due to the failure or tardiness to make the required payment for Inscription services. Broadly speaking though, causes for delays are very unique to each Inscription request but are generally attributable to incorrect or omitted data submitted by the Breeder and the parental incompatibility of Sires and/or Dams as determined by our laboratory.

3. As a Breeder, what can I do to ensure that a Carta for my horse is issued on a timely basis ?

The best advice that I can provide is to ensure that all the data affixed to the International Request for Service is accurate and that important required documents such as the Certificado de Cubricion (Breeding & Birth Certificate) are attached. It is also vital, for reasons of communications to, affix legible contact details such as email addresses as we are increasingly relying on electronic media to correspond with Breeders.

4. After I send my completed Inscription kit to the Miami office, how can I best determine if a Carta has been issued ?

The only dependable mechanisms to best establish that an Inscription has been confirmed and a Carta issued is to go to your private online Breeder file in the LG-ANCCE website or to check in the LG-ANCCE Arbol Genealogico PRE. Once a PRE number is listed for a newly Inscribed foal, the Carta is sent in our weekly couriers to the Miami LG-ANCCE office to be logged in their American Breeder records and remitted to the Breeder by certified mail. This last administrative and expediting process usually takes ten (10) working days.

5. I am no longer able to reach or locate the Owner of the Sire of my foal and I am having difficulties getting a Certificado de Cubricion to Inscribe my foal. What can I do ?

For horses born prior to December 31st 2007, Breeders can use our form entitled “Breeding and Birth Declaration” by emailing or calling the LG-ANCCE office in Miami. For horses, born on January 1, 2008 and thereafter, we have a very strict Stud Book policy of not accepting to process Inscription service requests without an official bar coded Certificado de Cubricion which is available online to all stallion owners free of charge. Breeders with extraordinary circumstances should contact the Miami office and our staff will endeavor to assist where possible.

6. I am in the process of selling a foal for which I have submitted a completed Inscription kit to the Miami LG-ANCCE office. Can I advertise the foal as being Inscribed ?

A horse should not, under any circumstances, be represented as Inscribed until an official PRE Stud Book number has been issued and published in the LG-ANCCE Arbol Genealogico PRE.

7. Last year, my horse was Inscribed & Revised on the same day. Since my horse passed Revision, can I represent that my horse is indeed now Revised?

In the first half of 2008, to accommodate the great demand for LG services in the U.S., LG-ANCCE, on an exceptional basis provided simultaneous Inscription and Revision services for a limited time. Nevertheless, unless a horse is first assigned a PRE number and a Carta issued, the Revision component is not acknowledged by the Stud Book.

8. What is the schedule for Revisions in the United States ?

Since September 2008, Revisions in the U.S. are scheduled by the interested Breeders and in coordination with USPRE and the Miami LG-ANCCE office. The Stud Book office will cover all associated travel costs of our authorized Veterinarian providing that the Breeders organize themselves and guarantee no less that fifteen (15) horses in any one location. Of course, Breeders can still request the services of our Veterinarian for Revision sites with less than fifteen (15) horses but in this instance, travel costs must be borne by the participating Breeders.

9. I have a very poor internet connection which does not always allow me to successfully make payments to LG-ANCCE. What alternative do I have to pay for Stud Book services ?

Besides making a conventional bank transfer, Breeders may also make service payments by faxing a Credit Card Authorization form to the Miami office. This form is available on the USPRE website.

10. The Sire of my six month foal is designated as “I.T.I.” (Inscritos a Titulo Informativo) in the Libro Genealogico PRE. Can my foal be Inscribed ?

As has been the case for many years and prior to the management of the PRE Stud Book by ANCCE, no offspring of horses designated as “I.T.I.” can be considered for Inscription.

11. Can LG-ANCCE provide me with the DNA markers of my horses ?

LG-ANCCE can provide Breeders with the DNA markers of their horses upon request. After January 2010, this data will be available online in the Private Breeder file.

12. What is the relationship between LG-ANCCE and Melpi/Gescab ?

There is absolutely no relationship between LG-ANCCE and Melpi on any level. As such, Breeders are cautioned to not rely on the PRE equine data which is published by non authorized or illegitimate entities.

13. There are several websites that provide P.R.E. genealogy which in fact often show different and contradictory information for the same horse. Which website should be used as the most reliable source ?

LG-ANCCE only maintains and supplies data for Pure Spanish Horses to one single resource – the LG-ANCCE Arbol Genealogico PRE. Given that it is our obligation to protect the sanctity and accuracy of the Stud Book data distributed to Breeders and to the public, this single resource center policy will continue.

14. What is the status of the Belgium Court ruling incident ?

It is unfortunate that some Breeders have been unduly caused unnecessary concern and alarm by the irresponsible reports of a so called Belgium court ruling. This court ruling simply does not exist and we (ANCCE and LG-ANCCE) are not associated or affected by this erroneous conjecture which is being used by an inconsequential number of antagonists. I must say, it does sell news print.

About the Author